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john smith
June 14th 06, 03:34 PM
Airbus Warns of Another Delay In Delivering A380 Jumbo Jets
More Trouble With Wiring Will Reduce Shipments To Nine From 20 Next Year
By DANIEL MICHAELS
June 14, 2006;*Page*A12

PARIS -- European plane maker Airbus said new production delays would
reduce the number of A380 jumbo jets it can deliver to customers through
2009, in the latest setback to the manufacturer's plans for the world's
largest passenger jet.
The two-deck A380 is already six months behind schedule for its first
deliveries, now set for the end of this year. European Aeronautic
Defence & Space Co., which owns 80% of Airbus, said in a separate
statement yesterday that the new delay of six to seven months wouldn't
hurt profit this year. But the company said it expects ¤500 million, or
about $630 million, less in earnings before interest and taxes, or Ebit,
from the A380 between 2007 and 2010 than it had projected because of the
delays.
EADS had never published an earnings target for these years. For this
year, the company has predicted overall Ebit of ¤3.2 billion to ¤3.4
billion.
Britain's BAE Systems PLC owns 20% of Airbus and is in talks to sell its
stake to EADS.
In its statement, Airbus said the new delays result from the same
problem that delayed the A380 in 2005: difficulties customizing the
aircraft and installing complex wiring. The company added that the A380
is on track for certification this year and that Singapore Airlines will
receive the first A380 by year end. Airbus said the plane is performing
well in flight tests.
Instead of delivering more than 20 A380s next year, Airbus now expects
to deliver only nine. In 2008, Airbus expects to deliver as many as nine
fewer planes than originally planned and five fewer than planned in
2009. Airbus said it is working to make up the shortfall. The company
faces penalty payments to customers for the delays, which are spelled
out in purchase contracts but confidential.
Chief Operation Officer John Leahy said that no customers canceled
orders after being informed of the new delays. Mr. Leahy said that the
customers had been hurt financially by the disruption of plans but that
"they understand the complexities."
Mr. Leahy added that although the plane itself is performing well, "the
first year of production is woefully inadequate from an airline
perspective."
The fresh delays come as Airbus faces possible limits to the plane's
operations because of the amount of turbulence it causes as it flies.
Singapore Airlines, Emirates Airlines of Dubai and Qantas Airways of
Australia are due to receive the first A380s this year and next. Mr.
Leahy said they will all get planes but fewer than planned, and
deliveries to other airlines will be shifted around.
Write to Daniel Michaels at

Thomas Borchert
June 14th 06, 04:47 PM
John,

I trust you have negotiated the copyright for these regular Wall Street
Journal publications you make here?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Capt.Doug
June 14th 06, 06:24 PM
>"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
> I trust you have negotiated the copyright for these regular Wall Street
> Journal publications you make here?


Will they prosecute a psuedonym?

D.

john smith
June 14th 06, 08:53 PM
In article
>,
"Capt.Doug" > wrote:

> >"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
> > I trust you have negotiated the copyright for these regular Wall Street
> > Journal publications you make here?
>
>
> Will they prosecute a psuedonym?

When you go to the website and select a story/webpage, you have two
options... PRINT or EMAIL. I choose EMAIL. You all get to see it, you
don't have to click on a link, you don't have to register, you don't
have to turn cookies on.
They provide the option, I select the distribution method.

Jules
June 14th 06, 09:50 PM
Thank you.

john smith wrote:
> In article
> >,
> "Capt.Doug" > wrote:
>
>
>>>"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
>>>I trust you have negotiated the copyright for these regular Wall Street
>>>Journal publications you make here?
>>
>>
>>Will they prosecute a psuedonym?
>
>
> When you go to the website and select a story/webpage, you have two
> options... PRINT or EMAIL. I choose EMAIL. You all get to see it, you
> don't have to click on a link, you don't have to register, you don't
> have to turn cookies on.
> They provide the option, I select the distribution method.

Private
June 17th 06, 03:18 AM
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> "Capt.Doug" > wrote:
>
>> >"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
>> > I trust you have negotiated the copyright for these regular Wall Street
>> > Journal publications you make here?
>>
>>
>> Will they prosecute a psuedonym?
>
> When you go to the website and select a story/webpage, you have two
> options... PRINT or EMAIL. I choose EMAIL. You all get to see it, you
> don't have to click on a link, you don't have to register, you don't
> have to turn cookies on.
> They provide the option, I select the distribution method

What is the email address of this Usenet newsgroup?

Bob Noel
June 17th 06, 04:11 AM
In article <gEJkg.47078$iF6.12987@pd7tw2no>, "Private" >
wrote:

> > When you go to the website and select a story/webpage, you have two
> > options... PRINT or EMAIL. I choose EMAIL. You all get to see it, you
> > don't have to click on a link, you don't have to register, you don't
> > have to turn cookies on.
> > They provide the option, I select the distribution method
>
> What is the email address of this Usenet newsgroup?

many outlook users (for example) wouldn't understand the distinction.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Thomas Borchert
June 17th 06, 08:52 AM
Bob,

> outlook users
>

Outlook Express. Don't confuse the two.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Bob Noel
June 17th 06, 01:21 PM
In article >,
Thomas Borchert > wrote:

> > outlook users
>
> Outlook Express. Don't confuse the two.

Actually, both. I understand the difference between the two apps, but
many outlook users are clueless wrt the distinction between usenet and
email. Much like many AOL'ers.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Private
June 17th 06, 08:19 PM
"Bob Noel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Thomas Borchert > wrote:
>
>> > outlook users
>>
>> Outlook Express. Don't confuse the two.
>
> Actually, both. I understand the difference between the two apps, but
> many outlook users are clueless wrt the distinction between usenet and
> email. Much like many AOL'ers.
>
> --
> Bob Noel
> Looking for a sig the
> lawyers will hate
>

I have but no longer use M$-Outlook I am somewhat ashamed to admit that I
do still use M$-OE for Usenet but not for email. I am sure there are better
alternatives but I lack sufficient motivation to make the change until I
manage to change all the way to Linux which I would like to complete. I
think I have a better than average grasp of the distinction between email
and Usenet and other listserver type applications but I do have more to
learn. My ignorance is showing in that I do not know the correct address to
use to do what john smith does to have an article of interest to this group
forwarded here. Hopefully before the thread creeps to the level of why
Republicans/Democrats/Fascists/highwing/lowwing/M$/Linux are fools as shown
by their choice of news reader, js or someone else will enlighten me as to
the correct email address of this group. When I see the answer I will
probably feel stupid and have an 'I knew that' or 'where to find it' moment,
Please accept my chagrin in advance.

Thomas Borchert
June 17th 06, 09:22 PM
Bob,

Well, yes, but Outlook has nothing to do with that confusion, since it
doesn't come with a newsreader.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Roger
June 17th 06, 09:42 PM
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:21:50 -0400, Bob Noel
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Thomas Borchert > wrote:
>
>> > outlook users
>>
>> Outlook Express. Don't confuse the two.
>
>Actually, both. I understand the difference between the two apps, but
>many outlook users are clueless wrt the distinction between usenet and
>email. Much like many AOL'ers.

I much prefer the cheap one. It lets me view e-mail in text only.

I use agent (not free agent) on usenet.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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